Editing Talk:Merchant

==Collision et al==
I'm well aware the collision page as it is right now strictly means terminal collision, not "lining things up". Editing the collision page is on the todo list, and a lot of our page edits have been made assuming that the terms in them will be properly glossary'd later in the project. --[[User:Terracubist|Terracubist]] ([[User talk:Terracubist|talk]]) 19:17, 2 April 2021 (EDT)

:Then you should create a ''new article'' about the phenomenon of ''desirably'' lining two things up in the same hand and link to that. First of all, you shouldn't link to an article on the wrong topic on the expectation that ''at some point'' it will be about the topic you mean; it makes it more confusing for readers in the interim. Second, as far as I can tell the vast majority of uses of the term "collision" on forum.dominionstrategy,com refers specifically to undesirably colliding two terminals. [[User:Ajd|Ajd]] ([[User talk:Ajd|talk]]) 00:15, 3 April 2021 (EDT)

:: On the Dominion Discord, "collision" is used primarily to describe two cards lining up together ''desirably'' i.e. "colliding Tournament with Province" or "colliding Urchins turn 3". To signify an undesirable collision, the term "''terminal'' collision" is used as terminal collision is a more specific case of collision. I am against creating new pages because fewer pages with more content is more desirable than many pages with little content on them. I agree that making assumptions can be confusing to normal wiki readers, which is why creating strong concept pages should be a high priority. However, it is much simpler to do the two tasks asynchronously rather than waiting on one to start the other. [[User:Muenstercheese|Muenstercheese]] ([[User talk:Muenstercheese|talk]]) 00:42, 3 April 2021 (EDT)

:::I don't think it makes sense to have a single page about ''both'' terminal collision and about lining up the cards you want in the same hand—they're two completely different strategic issues! The article on terminal collision should talk about strategy for how to prevent collision, and what to do when you do end up with your terminals colliding; the page for lining up cards desirably should talk about strategies to make ''that'' happen. They're different topics; the fact that they're both about "two cards being in the same hand" doesn't mean they're a single topic that deserve to be in the same article. I don't think "fewer pages with more content" is automatically desirable; each page should be about ''a specific topic''. And in any event, the logistics of updating the wiki may mean some pages get updated before others, but that doesn't mean that you should be acting as though the pages that haven't been updated yet already have been. People may want to actually use this wiki while we're editing it, and we don't want them to be in the position of clicking on a link for one topic and getting taken to an article about a different topic. [[User:Ajd|Ajd]] ([[User talk:Ajd|talk]]) 20:31, 3 April 2021 (EDT)

::: And yet the same term is used to refer to both of them! I think collision should be just one page, with a section for either meaning. As far as I've seen lately, terminal collisions are not discussed as much as they used to be and don't warrant an entire page to themselves. Terminal collisions are just a specific case of collisions and should be organized as such. In addition, it seems to be very rare to collide terminals after the first two shuffles (or in decks with poor/no deck control), whereas long ago terminal collisions happened throughout the game. Again, I agree that pre-linking and retconning is suspect, but it saves a load of work. It could be corrected by blanking and then rewriting concept articles, as even a short accurate remark is better than loads of fluff and outdated info. [[User:Muenstercheese|Muenstercheese]] ([[User talk:Muenstercheese|talk]]) 23:12, 3 April 2021 (EDT)
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 :::I don't think it makes sense to have a single page about ''both'' terminal collision and about lining up the cards you want in the same hand—they're two completely different strategic issues! The article on terminal collision should talk about strategy for how to prevent collision, and what to do when you do end up with your terminals colliding; the page for lining up cards desirably should talk about strategies to make ''that'' happen. They're different topics; the fact that they're both about "two cards being in the same hand" doesn't mean they're a single topic that deserve to be in the same article. I don't think "fewer pages with more content" is automatically desirable; each page should be about ''a specific topic''. And in any event, the logistics of updating the wiki may mean some pages get updated before others, but that doesn't mean that you should be acting as though the pages that haven't been updated yet already have been. People may want to actually use this wiki while we're editing it, and we don't want them to be in the position of clicking on a link for one topic and getting taken to an article about a different topic. [[User:Ajd|Ajd]] ([[User talk:Ajd|talk]]) 20:31, 3 April 2021 (EDT)
-:::: And yet the same term is used to refer to both of them! I think collision should be just one page, with a section for either meaning. As far as I've seen lately, terminal collisions are not discussed as much as they used to be and don't warrant an entire page to themselves. Terminal collisions are just a specific case of collisions and should be organized as such. In addition, it seems to be very rare to collide terminals after the first two shuffles (or in decks with poor/no deck control), whereas long ago terminal collisions happened throughout the game. Again, I agree that pre-linking and retconning is suspect, but it saves a load of work. It could be corrected by blanking and then rewriting concept articles, as even a short accurate remark is better than loads of fluff and outdated info. [[User:Muenstercheese|Muenstercheese]] ([[User talk:Muenstercheese|talk]]) 23:12, 3 April 2021 (EDT)
+::: And yet the same term is used to refer to both of them! I think collision should be just one page, with a section for either meaning. As far as I've seen lately, terminal collisions are not discussed as much as they used to be and don't warrant an entire page to themselves. Terminal collisions are just a specific case of collisions and should be organized as such. In addition, it seems to be very rare to collide terminals after the first two shuffles (or in decks with poor/no deck control), whereas long ago terminal collisions happened throughout the game. Again, I agree that pre-linking and retconning is suspect, but it saves a load of work. It could be corrected by blanking and then rewriting concept articles, as even a short accurate remark is better than loads of fluff and outdated info. [[User:Muenstercheese|Muenstercheese]] ([[User talk:Muenstercheese|talk]]) 23:12, 3 April 2021 (EDT)
-:::::Seconded to everything Muenstercheese said. --[[User:Terracubist|Terracubist]] ([[User talk:Terracubist|talk]]) 04:44, 4 April 2021 (EDT)