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=== The recent lack of Victory cards ===
 
=== The recent lack of Victory cards ===
Many of the more recent expansions/second editions (specifically {{Set|Renaissance}}, {{Set|Menagerie}}, {{Set|Seaside|ed=2|Seaside 2E}}, {{Set|Hinterlands|ed=2|Hinterlands 2E}}, and {{Set|Plunder}}) have not included any new Victory cards (and/or [[alt VP]]).
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{{Quote|Text= You can endlessly do victory cards where there's just 2 {{VP}} tacked onto an action or treasure. You can even sometimes make that relevant (e.g., {{Card|Ironmonger}} but also worth VP).
{{Quote|Text= You can endlessly do victory cards where there's just 2{{VP}} tacked onto an action or treasure. You can even sometimes make that relevant (e.g., {{Card|Ironmonger}} but also worth VP).
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"Classic" victory cards where the whole idea is that they're worth {{VP}} based on something, well, you can read the Secret Histories for lots of things I've tried there that didn't make it. Some of them turned into [[Landmark]]s, which further eat into the remaining space. If I had to have new classic victory cards, I know what my front-runners would be, but if I can make better cards instead, I'll do that. So that's what's been happening. I haven't forgotten that some people would like new victory cards, and haven't stopped trying things there.
 
"Classic" victory cards where the whole idea is that they're worth {{VP}} based on something, well, you can read the Secret Histories for lots of things I've tried there that didn't make it. Some of them turned into [[Landmark]]s, which further eat into the remaining space. If I had to have new classic victory cards, I know what my front-runners would be, but if I can make better cards instead, I'll do that. So that's what's been happening. I haven't forgotten that some people would like new victory cards, and haven't stopped trying things there.
 
|Name=[[Donald X. Vaccarino]]
 
|Name=[[Donald X. Vaccarino]]
 
  |Source=[http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5799.msg854540#msg854540 Interview with Donald X.]
 
  |Source=[http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5799.msg854540#msg854540 Interview with Donald X.]
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I have nothing against {{VP}} cards, and I haven't been saving them up; in fact {{Set|Allies}} started out pursuing a Victory cards sub-theme (and you can read about a few in the Secret History). The cards just didn't work out. As noted in the link, it's hard to make a good new one that isn't just "N {{VP}}, also does something else."
 
 
{{Set|Hinterlands|ed=2|Hinterlands 2E}} might have replaced {{Card|Silk Road}} with a new {{VP}} card, but the update pack was a limiting factor there, since {{VP}} cards require 2 extra cards.
 
|Name=[[Donald X. Vaccarino]]
 
|Source=[http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=5799.msg900351#msg900351 Interview with Donald X.]
 
 
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{{Navbox card types}}
 
{{Navbox card types}}
 
[[Category:Basic card types]]
 
[[Category:Basic card types]]

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