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− | '''Margrave''' is an [[Action]]–[[Attack]] from [[Hinterlands]]. Margrave's attack generally hurts your opponents less than other [[discard attack|discard attacks]], and subsequent plays actually help them. | + | '''Margrave''' is an [[Action]]–[[Attack]] from [[Hinterlands]]. Margrave's attack generally hurts your opponents less than other [[discard attack|discard attacks]], and subsequent plays actually help them somewhat. However, +3 Cards and +Buy are very nice benefits for both [[money strategies]] and [[engine|engines]]. |
== FAQ == | == FAQ == | ||
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* If the card they draw is a Reaction that triggers on an attack (such as {{Card|Moat}} or {{Card|Caravan Guard}}), they cannot use it (but they can keep it in their hand to use against a future attack). | * If the card they draw is a Reaction that triggers on an attack (such as {{Card|Moat}} or {{Card|Caravan Guard}}), they cannot use it (but they can keep it in their hand to use against a future attack). | ||
− | == Strategy | + | == Strategy == |
− | Margrave is a | + | Margrave is a powerful card offering [[terminal draw]], a [[handsize Attack]], and [[+Buy]] all at once, making it useful for both [[engine]]s and [[money strategies]]. While the attack is slightly weaker than a simple discard to three, since it offers your opponent some [[cycling]] and better card selection (similar to playing {{Card|Council Room}} then {{Card|Militia}}), this combination of effects can quickly accelerate your early and mid-game while also slowing down your opponents, possibly from buying their own first Margrave. In any case, getting a Margrave in the early game is usually worthwhile both for the draw and for the attack. |
− | + | If your engine plays multiple Margraves in a single turn, the improved cycling and card selection offered to the opponent is compounded: each Margrave after the first offers a small benefit to them rather than a negative effect. This is usually not a reason to forgo Margrave, however, though it may be better to gain other [[draw]] cards rather than another Margrave, assuming you have enough +Buy. | |
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− | + | Margrave is also a solid terminal draw card for money strategies. The handsize attack is very relevant in Kingdoms where this is the best strategy, because it damages your opponents’ ability to generate enough {{Cost}} to afford {{Card|Gold}} or {{Card|Province}}. The added +Buy is typically less important in this context, but can help by offering flexibility in the endgame and by letting you buy cheap deck components, e.g., {{Card|Fool's Gold}}. | |
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== Versions == | == Versions == | ||
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! Print !! Digital !! Text !! Release !! Date | ! Print !! Digital !! Text !! Release !! Date | ||
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− | | {{ | + | | {{CardLangVersionImage|o=1}} || {{CardVersionImage|MargraveDigitalOld|Margrave from Goko/Making Fun}} || '''+3 Cards<br>+1 Buy'''<br>Each other player draws a card, then discards down to 3 cards in hand. || Hinterlands || October 2011 |
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− | | {{ | + | | {{CardLangVersionImage}} || {{CardLangVersionImage|d=1}} || '''+3 Cards<br>+1 Buy'''<br>Each other player draws a card, then discards down to 3 cards in hand. || Hinterlands [[Second Edition#Formatting_changes|(2016 printing)]] || December 2016 |
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!German | !German | ||
− | | Markgraf || [[File:Markgrave.German.jpg|100px]] || || '''+3 Karten<br>+1 Kauf'''<br>Jeder Mitspieler | + | | Markgraf || [[File:Markgrave.German.jpg|100px|German language Margrave 2019 by ASS]] || {{CardVersionImage|MargraveGerman2021Digital|German language Margrave 2021 from Shuffle iT}} || '''+3 Karten<br>+1 Kauf'''<br>Jeder Mitspieler zieht eine Karte und legt dann alle bis auf 3 Handkarten ab. || (2019) |
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!Italian | !Italian | ||
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!Japanese | !Japanese | ||
− | | 辺境伯 (pron. ''henkyō haku'', lit. ''border chief'') || || || '''+3 カードを引く''' | + | | 辺境伯 <br>(pron. ''henkyō haku'', lit. ''border chief'') || || || '''+3 カードを引く'''<br>'''+1 購入'''<br> 他のプレイヤーは全員、1枚カードを引き、手札が3枚になるように捨て札にする。 || |
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+ | !Polish | ||
+ | | Murgrabia || || || || <small>Although Polish version is not released,<br>this name is referred to in Polish Dominion 2E rulebook.</small> | ||
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!Russian | !Russian | ||
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|Text=A later set for a long time had an attack that made everyone else discard down to two, then draw a card. Mathematically it seems equivalent to {{Card|Militia}}: you discard down to three, then you discard the worst card, which on average is average for your deck, being the middle card out of five; then you draw a card, which on average is average for your deck. That math is tricky but run through it a couple times if you have to. It's the same as {{Card|Militia}}. Well in practice it hurts way more than {{Card|Militia}}, like you might have thought. Militia lets you keep three cards that could be a fine hand. This only let you keep two, which is rarely enough to have a good plan, and then you draw a random card, which could work out but often does not. Anyway it was around for a long time but eventually died and everyone rejoiced. Vinay Baliga suggested flipping it - they draw one then discard down to three. Sounded good, I tried it, it worked out, there it is. | |Text=A later set for a long time had an attack that made everyone else discard down to two, then draw a card. Mathematically it seems equivalent to {{Card|Militia}}: you discard down to three, then you discard the worst card, which on average is average for your deck, being the middle card out of five; then you draw a card, which on average is average for your deck. That math is tricky but run through it a couple times if you have to. It's the same as {{Card|Militia}}. Well in practice it hurts way more than {{Card|Militia}}, like you might have thought. Militia lets you keep three cards that could be a fine hand. This only let you keep two, which is rarely enough to have a good plan, and then you draw a random card, which could work out but often does not. Anyway it was around for a long time but eventually died and everyone rejoiced. Vinay Baliga suggested flipping it - they draw one then discard down to three. Sounded good, I tried it, it worked out, there it is. | ||
+ | |Name=[[Donald X. Vaccarino]] | ||
+ | |Source=[http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=909.0 The Secret History of the Hinterlands Cards] | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | === Relevant outtakes === | ||
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+ | |Text= Similarly there were several versions of a when-gain discard-based attack card. The longest-lasting one was a {{Card|Woodcutter}} for {{Cost|5}} that made the other players (with 5+ cards in hand) put a random card from their hand on their deck when you bought it or played it. It's amazing how long that card was around, given how painful it made games. There was an earlier version that made players discard their most expensive card, or most expensive non-{{VP}} card. Then when I killed the concept, I tried a {{Card|Militia}} with a when-gain that {{Card|Militia}}'d your own next hand when you gained it - look at your top 5, discard 2, put the rest back. That seemed cute conceptually but I liked Margrave better and that's what you got here. I also tried an attack that gave the other players a choice between being {{Card|Militia}}'d or {{Card|Ghost Ship}}'d, which is pretty weak. | ||
|Name=[[Donald X. Vaccarino]] | |Name=[[Donald X. Vaccarino]] | ||
|Source=[http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=909.0 The Secret History of the Hinterlands Cards] | |Source=[http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=909.0 The Secret History of the Hinterlands Cards] | ||
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|Name=[[Donald X. Vaccarino]] | |Name=[[Donald X. Vaccarino]] | ||
|Source=[http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=18337.msg749546#msg749546 Fix the worst cards] | |Source=[http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=18337.msg749546#msg749546 Fix the worst cards] | ||
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+ | {{Quote | ||
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+ | The attack premise of Margrave is cool. Being an attack with +3 Cards is never so great; I like people to commit more to the attack, not just end up with it because it draws. And then, Margrave is over-the-top, it's the +Buy. It sure did not need that. But well, I only got to fix so much, and Margrave had positives. You may also note that in Hinterlands-heavy games, more things defend against discard attacks now. | ||
+ | |Name=[[Donald X. Vaccarino]] | ||
+ | |Source=[https://discord.com/channels/212660788786102272/936246610961260594/991608965307842621 Dominion Discord, 2022] | ||
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{{Navbox Hinterlands}} | {{Navbox Hinterlands}} | ||
{{Navbox Cards}} | {{Navbox Cards}} | ||
+ | [[category:draw]] | ||
+ | [[category:extra buys]] | ||
+ | [[category:offense]] | ||
+ | [[category:attack]] | ||
+ | [[category:handsize attack]] | ||
+ | [[category:terminals]] | ||
+ | [[category:handsize positive]] |
Latest revision as of 03:52, 29 June 2022
Margrave | |
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Info | |
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Type(s) | Action - Attack |
Kingdom card? | Yes |
Set | Hinterlands |
Illustrator(s) | Joshua Stewart |
Card text | |
+3 Card +1 Buy Each other player draws a card, then discards down to 3 cards in hand. |
Margrave is an Action–Attack from Hinterlands. Margrave's attack generally hurts your opponents less than other discard attacks, and subsequent plays actually help them somewhat. However, +3 Cards and +Buy are very nice benefits for both money strategies and engines.
Contents |
[edit] FAQ
[edit] Official FAQ
- Drawing a card is not optional for the other players.
- A player who only has 3 cards or fewer after drawing does not discard.
[edit] Other Rules clarifications
- If the card they draw is a Reaction that triggers on an attack (such as Moat or Caravan Guard), they cannot use it (but they can keep it in their hand to use against a future attack).
[edit] Strategy
Margrave is a powerful card offering terminal draw, a handsize Attack, and +Buy all at once, making it useful for both engines and money strategies. While the attack is slightly weaker than a simple discard to three, since it offers your opponent some cycling and better card selection (similar to playing Council Room then Militia), this combination of effects can quickly accelerate your early and mid-game while also slowing down your opponents, possibly from buying their own first Margrave. In any case, getting a Margrave in the early game is usually worthwhile both for the draw and for the attack.
If your engine plays multiple Margraves in a single turn, the improved cycling and card selection offered to the opponent is compounded: each Margrave after the first offers a small benefit to them rather than a negative effect. This is usually not a reason to forgo Margrave, however, though it may be better to gain other draw cards rather than another Margrave, assuming you have enough +Buy.
Margrave is also a solid terminal draw card for money strategies. The handsize attack is very relevant in Kingdoms where this is the best strategy, because it damages your opponents’ ability to generate enough to afford Gold or Province. The added +Buy is typically less important in this context, but can help by offering flexibility in the endgame and by letting you buy cheap deck components, e.g., Fool's Gold.
[edit] Versions
[edit] English versions
Digital | Text | Release | Date | |
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+3 Cards +1 Buy Each other player draws a card, then discards down to 3 cards in hand. |
Hinterlands | October 2011 | ||
+3 Cards +1 Buy Each other player draws a card, then discards down to 3 cards in hand. |
Hinterlands (2016 printing) | December 2016 |
[edit] Other language versions
[edit] Trivia
[edit] Theme
[edit] Secret History
[edit] Relevant outtakes
[edit] Retrospective