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− | |text = +3 Cards<br>+1 Action<br>Discard 2 cards. | + | |text = '''+3 Cards<br>+1 Action'''<br>Discard 2 cards. |
− | |text2 = When you | + | |text2 = When you gain this, '''+1 Buy'''. |
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− | '''Forum''' is an [[Action]] card from [[Empires]]. | + | '''Forum''' is an [[Action]] card from [[Empires]]. It is a [[sifter]] that maintains hand size. |
== FAQ == | == FAQ == | ||
− | === Official FAQ === | + | === Official FAQ (2016) === |
* For example, with {{Cost|13}} and only one Buy, you could buy a Forum, getting +1 Buy, then buy a {{Card|Province}}. | * For example, with {{Cost|13}} and only one Buy, you could buy a Forum, getting +1 Buy, then buy a {{Card|Province}}. | ||
+ | === Other rules clarifications === | ||
+ | Since 2022, Forum's +Buy bonus' trigger is changing from "when you buy" to "when you gain". | ||
+ | * Getting +1 Buy happens when you buy or otherwise gain this. | ||
== Strategy == | == Strategy == | ||
− | + | Forum is a handsize-neutral and [[non-terminal]] [[sifter]] that offers effective [[cycling]] through your deck towards the cards you most want to find. This means it offers a strong boost to your deck’s reliability, and makes it a very useful support card. However, at {{Cost|5}}, it often has a significant [[opportunity cost]], and so it’s common to want to add it after higher priority cards such as a {{Cost|5}} [[trasher]]. Forum is particularly useful in [[Kingdom]]s in which other [[deck control]] tools (in the form of [[thinning]] and perhaps [[draw]]) are weak or lacking, or in the early midgame before you are able to attain deck control. The increased reliability it offers is particularly relevant if you need to find the right combination of cards each turn to get your [[engine]] going, such as a [[village (card category)|village]] and [[terminal draw]], or {{Card|Encampment}} and {{Card|Plunder}}. Otherwise, it can also be a very strong tool for facilitating other specific card collisions (for example {{Card|Tournament}} with {{Card|Province}}). | |
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− | + | Although it’s relatively expensive, Forum’s on-gain effect means that it has no opportunity cost in terms of gains. This has several implications: | |
− | + | # It’s often worth purchasing on a turn on which you’ve generated more {{Cost}} than you can make use of with the number of Buys available. For example, if you have {{Cost|7}} and 1 Buy and need a {{Card|Candlestick Maker}}, buying Forum first effectively allows you to acquire it for free. | |
− | + | # Forums can be very easy to empty for a [[pileout]] or acquire in bulk: in particular, if you have significant [[cost reduction]] (e.g., via {{Card|Quarry}}), this can be achieved cheaply and at net cost of zero Buys. | |
− | + | # Using a [[gainer]] such as {{Card|University}} to gain Forum functions as a one-time source of [[+Buy]]; this may be important if +Buy is otherwise difficult to come by, but the fact that it is not sustainable once the Forum pile runs out means that it is most commonly useful in the midgame as a way to pick up extra engine pieces. This can potentially also be used to buy multiple [[Victory]] cards per turn during [[greening]], although it may be risky to plan around Forums remaining available in the pile late into the game. | |
+ | Forum becomes significantly more powerful if you can also benefit from synergy with [[Reaction]]s that trigger on discard: notably, Forum paired with {{Card|Village Green}} or {{Card|Trail}} can function as draw in addition to providing a village effect. | ||
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+ | == Versions == | ||
+ | ===English versions=== | ||
+ | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;" | ||
+ | ! Print !! Digital !! Text !! Release !! Date | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | {{CardVersionImage|ForumOld|Forum}} || {{CardLangVersionImage|d=s|o=1}} || style="padding:0px 20px;"| '''+3 Cards<br>+1 Action'''<br>Discard 2 cards.{{Divline}}When you buy this, '''+1 Buy'''. || <p>Empires</p><hr><p>Empires (2021 printing)</p> || <p>June 2016</p><hr><p> </p> | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | || {{CardLangVersionImage|d=t}} || style="padding:0px 20px;"| '''+3 Cards<br>+1 Action'''<br>Discard 2 cards.{{Divline}}When you gain this, '''+1 Buy'''. || [[2022_Errata#anchor_GetRidBuyA|Change when-buy to {{nowrap|when-gain}}]] || [http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=21326.0 June 29, 2022] | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | ===Other language versions=== | ||
+ | {| class="wikitable mw-collapsible autocollapse" style="text-align:center;" | ||
+ | ! Language !! Name !! Print !! Digital !! Text !! Notes | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !Dutch | ||
+ | | Forum || {{CardLangVersionImage|Dutch}} || {{CardLangVersionImage|Dutch|d=s}} || '''+3 Kaarten<br>+1 Acties'''<br>Leg 2 kaarten af.{{Divline}}Bij het kopen van deze kaart,<br>'''+1 Aanschaf'''. || (2016) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !Finnish | ||
+ | | Foorumi || || || || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !French | ||
+ | | Forum || || {{CardVersionImage|ForumFrench2022Digital|French language Forum 2022 from Shuffle iT}} || style="padding:0px 20px;"| '''+3 Cartes<br>+1 Action'''<br>Défaussez 2 cartes.{{Divline}}Quand vous achetez cette carte, '''+1 Achat'''. || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !rowspan=2|German | ||
+ | | Forum || {{CardVersionImage|ForumGerman2021rulebook|German language Forum 2021 by ASS}} || {{CardVersionImage|ForumGerman2022Digital|German language Forum 2021 from Shuffle iT}} || '''+3 Karten<br>+1 Aktion'''<br>Lege zwei deiner Handkarten ab.{{Divline}}Wenn du diese Karte kaufst: '''+1 Kauf''' || 2. Edition<br>(2021) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Forum || || {{CardLangVersionImage|German|d=t}} || '''+3 Karten<br>+1 Aktion'''<br>Lege 2 deiner Handkarten ab.{{Divline}}Wenn du diese Karte nimmst: '''+1 Kauf'''. || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !Japanese | ||
+ | | 公共広場<br> (pron. ''kōkyō hiroba'',<br> lit. ''public square'') || || || style="padding:15px 0px;"| '''+3 カードを引く'''<br>'''+1 アクション'''<br>2枚捨て札にする。{{Divline}}これを購入するとき、{{nowrap|'''+1 購入'''。}} || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !Polish | ||
+ | | Forum || {{CardLangVersionImage|Polish}} || || '''+3 karty<br>+1 akcja'''<br>Odrzuć 2 karty.{{Divline}}Kiedy kupujesz tę kartę, '''+1 zakup'''. || (2017) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !Russian | ||
+ | | Форум (pron. ''forum'') || || || || | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | == Trivia == | ||
+ | [[Image:ForumArt.jpg|thumb|right|354px|Official card art.]] | ||
=== Secret History === | === Secret History === | ||
{{Quote|Text=This started at {{Cost|2}} with +2 Cards instead of +3. There were several possible ways to do "when buy +buy" to try to not empty piles too quickly; the solution here was, a more powerful card costing {{Cost|5}}. | {{Quote|Text=This started at {{Cost|2}} with +2 Cards instead of +3. There were several possible ways to do "when buy +buy" to try to not empty piles too quickly; the solution here was, a more powerful card costing {{Cost|5}}. | ||
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|Source=[http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=15660.0 The Secret History of the Empires Cards] | |Source=[http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=15660.0 The Secret History of the Empires Cards] | ||
}} | }} | ||
+ | === Connection between top and bottom abilities === | ||
+ | {{Quote | ||
+ | |Text= The card had to be worth picking up with the extra {{Cost}}, and not too cheap. | ||
+ | |Name=[[Donald X. Vaccarino]] | ||
+ | |Source=[http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=20358.msg839154#msg839154 Logic behind "special things"] | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | === Rewording === | ||
+ | {{Quote | ||
+ | |Text= Some cards got to just change to when-gain: {{Card|Port}}, {{Card|Hovel}}, {{Event|Plan}}, {{Card|Charm}}, Forum, {{Landmark|Basilica}}, {{Landmark|Colonnade}}, {{Card|Mint}}. Some of these are notably different; in each case that seemed worth it to me in order to get rid of the when-buy. | ||
+ | |Name=[[Donald X. Vaccarino]] | ||
+ | |Source=[http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=21326.0 The Why of the Errata] | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | |||
{{Navbox Empires}} | {{Navbox Empires}} | ||
{{Navbox Cards}} | {{Navbox Cards}} | ||
+ | [[Category:Non-terminals]] | ||
+ | [[Category:Draw]] | ||
+ | [[Category:Handsize neutral]] | ||
+ | [[Category:Sifter]] | ||
+ | [[Category:Extra buys]] |
Latest revision as of 04:53, 13 June 2024
Forum | |
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Info | |
Cost | |
Type(s) | Action |
Kingdom card? | Yes |
Set | Empires |
Illustrator(s) | Ryan Laukat |
Card text | |
+3 Cards +1 Action Discard 2 cards. When you gain this, +1 Buy. |
Forum is an Action card from Empires. It is a sifter that maintains hand size.
Contents |
[edit] FAQ
[edit] Official FAQ (2016)
- For example, with and only one Buy, you could buy a Forum, getting +1 Buy, then buy a Province.
[edit] Other rules clarifications
Since 2022, Forum's +Buy bonus' trigger is changing from "when you buy" to "when you gain".
- Getting +1 Buy happens when you buy or otherwise gain this.
[edit] Strategy
Forum is a handsize-neutral and non-terminal sifter that offers effective cycling through your deck towards the cards you most want to find. This means it offers a strong boost to your deck’s reliability, and makes it a very useful support card. However, at , it often has a significant opportunity cost, and so it’s common to want to add it after higher priority cards such as a trasher. Forum is particularly useful in Kingdoms in which other deck control tools (in the form of thinning and perhaps draw) are weak or lacking, or in the early midgame before you are able to attain deck control. The increased reliability it offers is particularly relevant if you need to find the right combination of cards each turn to get your engine going, such as a village and terminal draw, or Encampment and Plunder. Otherwise, it can also be a very strong tool for facilitating other specific card collisions (for example Tournament with Province).
Although it’s relatively expensive, Forum’s on-gain effect means that it has no opportunity cost in terms of gains. This has several implications:
- It’s often worth purchasing on a turn on which you’ve generated more than you can make use of with the number of Buys available. For example, if you have and 1 Buy and need a Candlestick Maker, buying Forum first effectively allows you to acquire it for free.
- Forums can be very easy to empty for a pileout or acquire in bulk: in particular, if you have significant cost reduction (e.g., via Quarry), this can be achieved cheaply and at net cost of zero Buys.
- Using a gainer such as University to gain Forum functions as a one-time source of +Buy; this may be important if +Buy is otherwise difficult to come by, but the fact that it is not sustainable once the Forum pile runs out means that it is most commonly useful in the midgame as a way to pick up extra engine pieces. This can potentially also be used to buy multiple Victory cards per turn during greening, although it may be risky to plan around Forums remaining available in the pile late into the game.
Forum becomes significantly more powerful if you can also benefit from synergy with Reactions that trigger on discard: notably, Forum paired with Village Green or Trail can function as draw in addition to providing a village effect.
[edit] Versions
[edit] English versions
Digital | Text | Release | Date | |
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+3 Cards +1 Action Discard 2 cards. When you buy this, +1 Buy. |
Empires Empires (2021 printing) |
June 2016
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+3 Cards +1 Action Discard 2 cards. When you gain this, +1 Buy. |
Change when-buy to when-gain | June 29, 2022 |
[edit] Other language versions
[edit] Trivia
[edit] Secret History
[edit] Connection between top and bottom abilities
[edit] Rewording