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− | + | |name = Saboteur | |
− | | | + | |cost = 5 |
− | | | + | |type1 = Action |
+ | |type2 = Attack | ||
+ | |illustrator = Dennis Lohausen | ||
+ | |text = Each other player reveals cards from the top of his deck until revealing one costing {{Cost|3}} or more. He trashes that card and may gain a card costing at most {{Cost|2}} less than it. He discards the other revealed cards. | ||
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− | '''Saboteur''' is an [[Action]]-[[Attack]] card from [[Intrigue]]. When played, it makes all other players reveal cards from their deck until they reveal a card costing {{ | + | '''Saboteur''' is an [[Action]]-[[Attack]] card from the first edition of [[Intrigue]]. When played, it makes all other players reveal cards from their deck until they reveal a card costing {{Cost|3}} or more, and then makes them trash that card; as a consolation, they may gain a card costing up to {{Cost|2}} less; the effect is like a reverse {{Card|Remodel}}. Unless it can be played every turn reliably, it is fairly weak, since its attack can often hit easy-to-get cards like {{Card|Silver}} and since it gives no direct benefit to the player who plays it. |
+ | It was [[Removed cards|removed]] from the [[second edition]] of Intrigue. | ||
== FAQ == | == FAQ == | ||
=== Official FAQ === | === Official FAQ === | ||
− | * Each other player turns over the top cards of his deck until he reveals one costing {{ | + | * Each other player turns over the top cards of his deck until he reveals one costing {{Cost|3}} or more. If a player needs to shuffle to continue revealing cards, he does not shuffle in the already revealed cards. |
− | * If he goes through all of his cards without finding a card costing {{ | + | * If he goes through all of his cards without finding a card costing {{Cost|3}} or more, he just discards everything revealed and is done. |
− | * If he does find a card costing {{ | + | * If he does find a card costing {{Cost|3}} or more, he trashes it, and then may choose to gain a card costing at most {{Cost|2}} less than the trashed card. For example, if he trashed a card costing {{Cost|5}}, he may gain a card costing up to {{Cost|3}}. |
* The gained card must be from the [[Supply]] and is put into his discard pile, as are his revealed cards. | * The gained card must be from the [[Supply]] and is put into his discard pile, as are his revealed cards. | ||
* Costs of cards are affected by Bridge. | * Costs of cards are affected by Bridge. | ||
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The ultimate spite card, and on the surface, seemingly ridiculously powerful. But on a closer look, considering its cost, Saboteur is one of the weakest attacks in the game. | The ultimate spite card, and on the surface, seemingly ridiculously powerful. But on a closer look, considering its cost, Saboteur is one of the weakest attacks in the game. | ||
− | First, Saboteur is one of the three attack cards (along with {{Card|Sea Hag}} and {{Card|Sir Michael}}) that provides zero benefit to the attacker, which is a much greater liability than it might seem. {{ | + | First, Saboteur is one of the three attack cards (along with {{Card|Sea Hag}} and {{Card|Sir Michael}}) that provides zero benefit to the attacker, which is a much greater liability than it might seem. {{Cost|5}} represents an elite tier of Actions, so buying Saboteur means passing up some very strong alternatives. And the fact that it is terminal means that you can’t exactly load up on Saboteurs without doing even more harm to your own deck. |
− | Second, the attack can benefit your opponents in a way: because it skips all the {{ | + | Second, the attack can benefit your opponents in a way: because it skips all the {{Cost|0}} and {{Cost|2}} cards, it might let them cycle through the junk in their deck. I would be completely fine with my opponent discarding all my Coppers, Curses, and Estates just to trash a Silver. |
− | Third, an opponent can sometimes take advantage of the Saboteur to exchange an expensive card for a card they’d rather have — converting {{ | + | Third, an opponent can sometimes take advantage of the Saboteur to exchange an expensive card for a card they’d rather have — converting {{Cost|7}} cards into {{Card|Duchy|Duchies}}; {{Card|Gold|Golds}} into {{Card|Gardens}} or {{Card|Estate|Estates}}. And not being able to buy the winning Duchy because you trashed your opponent’s {{Card|Peddler}} into the last Duchy is a pretty painful thing. |
− | Fourth... it’s just not that strong. The best case scenario is hitting an opponent’s {{Card|Colony}}/{{Card|Province}}, which either just gets "un-{{Card|Remodel}} | + | Fourth... it’s just not that strong. The best case scenario is hitting an opponent’s {{Card|Colony}}/{{Card|Province}}, which either just gets "un-{{Card|Remodel|Remodeled}}" into a {{Card|Platinum}}/{{Card|Gold}}, or "un-{{Card|Rebuild|Rebuilt}}" into a Province/Duchy. The possibility of a 3-4VP difference is therefore hardly that much better than buying a Duchy with the {{Cost|5}}. And your opponents can counter Saboteur pretty strongly by filling their deck with cheap, expendable non-terminal Actions (boo hoo, you trashed my {{Card|Wishing Well}}), or hiding their valuables with {{Card|Island}} or {{Card|Native Village}}. |
− | Nevertheless, Saboteur is still good in certain situations. If you have an abundance of Actions, there are certainly worse terminals to purchase. (I’m looking at you, {{Card|Chancellor}}.) It really benefits from gaps in card costs: for instance, a lack of {{ | + | Nevertheless, Saboteur is still good in certain situations. If you have an abundance of Actions, there are certainly worse terminals to purchase. (I’m looking at you, {{Card|Chancellor}}.) It really benefits from gaps in card costs: for instance, a lack of {{Cost|4}} Cards means that a Sabotaged Gold has to drop by {{Cost|3}} instead of {{Cost|2}}. Similarly, Saboteur’s effect is effectively amplified if the only available cards at a certain price level totally suck (how many {{Card|Talisman|Talismans}} do you really want or need, past early game?) and/or are terminal and incompatible with the rest of the set. |
Like most other attacks, Saboteur is more powerful early on, when discarding Coppers still hurt, and a couple lucky draws can really hamstring your opponent’s upward progress. And also like most other attacks, Saboteur becomes wildly powerful with {{Card|Throne Room}} and {{Card|King's Court}}, which lets you really pore through an opponent’s deck, making it much more likely that you’ll hit a Victory card. (You’ll also be trashing his cards much faster than he can replace them.) It’s also a common last-minute desperation gambit if you have no other realistic way to catch up to someone ahead of you in Provinces. | Like most other attacks, Saboteur is more powerful early on, when discarding Coppers still hurt, and a couple lucky draws can really hamstring your opponent’s upward progress. And also like most other attacks, Saboteur becomes wildly powerful with {{Card|Throne Room}} and {{Card|King's Court}}, which lets you really pore through an opponent’s deck, making it much more likely that you’ll hit a Victory card. (You’ll also be trashing his cards much faster than he can replace them.) It’s also a common last-minute desperation gambit if you have no other realistic way to catch up to someone ahead of you in Provinces. | ||
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All in all, though, Saboteur looks much more powerful than it actually is. The best counter to Saboteur is probably not getting one. | All in all, though, Saboteur looks much more powerful than it actually is. The best counter to Saboteur is probably not getting one. | ||
=== Synergies/Combos === | === Synergies/Combos === | ||
− | *{{Card|Throne Room}} / {{Card|King's Court}} | + | * {{Card|Throne Room}} / {{Card|King's Court}} |
− | *{{Card|Spy}} | + | * {{Card|Spy}} |
− | *Opponent’s {{Card|Possession}} | + | * Opponent’s {{Card|Possession}} |
=== Antisynergies === | === Antisynergies === | ||
− | *Opponents that flood their decks with expendable non-terminal {{ | + | * Opponents that flood their decks with expendable non-terminal {{Cost|3}}/{{Cost|4}}Actions |
− | *Your other attacks | + | * Your other attacks |
− | *{{Card|Peddler}} | + | * {{Card|Peddler}} |
− | *Opponents’ {{Card|Remodel}}/{{Card|Expand}} | + | * Opponents’ {{Card|Remodel}}/{{Card|Expand}} |
− | *Opponents’ {{Card|Gardens}} decks, since the Saboteur slows you from getting your Provinces before the game ends, while trashing Gardens into Estates accelerates the end of the game and trashing {{Card|Workshop}} | + | * Opponents’ {{Card|Gardens}} decks, since the Saboteur slows you from getting your Provinces before the game ends, while trashing Gardens into Estates accelerates the end of the game and trashing {{Card|Workshop|Workshops}} doesn’t really matter |
− | *Opponents’ junk decks in general (decks that primarily rely on cards costing under {{ | + | * Opponents’ junk decks in general (decks that primarily rely on cards costing under {{Cost|3}}: for instance, {{Card|Counting House}}) |
− | *Opponents that hide their Victory cards with {{Card|Island}} or {{Card|Native Village}} | + | * Opponents that hide their Victory cards with {{Card|Island}} or {{Card|Native Village}} |
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+ | == Versions == | ||
+ | ===English versions=== | ||
+ | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;" | ||
+ | ! Print !! Digital !! Text !! Release !! Date | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | {{CardVersionImage|Saboteur|Saboteur}} || {{CardVersionImage|SaboteurDigital|Saboteur from Goko/Making Fun}} || Each other player reveals cards from the top of his deck until revealing one costing {{Cost|3}} or more. He trashes that card and may gain a card costing at most {{Cost|2}} less than it. He discards the other revealed cards. || Intrigue 1st Edition || July 2009 | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | ===Other language versions=== | ||
+ | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;" | ||
+ | ! Language !! Name !! Print !! Digital !! Text !! Notes | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !Chinese | ||
+ | | 炸彈客 (pron. ''zhàdàn kè'', lit. ''bomber'') || || || || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !Czech | ||
+ | | Sabotér || || || || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !Dutch | ||
+ | | Saboteur || || || || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !Finnish | ||
+ | | Tihulainen (lit. ''little troublemaker'') || || || || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !French | ||
+ | | Saboteur || || || || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !German | ||
+ | | Saboteur || {{CardVersionImage|SaboteurGerman|German language Saboteur}} || || <u>''(HiG :)''</u> Jeder Mitspieler muss solange Karten von seinem Nachziehstapel aufdecken, bis er eine Karte aufdeckt, die {{Cost|3}} oder mehr kostet. Er muss diese Karte entsorgen und darf sich eine Karte nehmen, die mindestens {{Cost|2}} weniger kostet. Die übrigen aufgedeckten Karten legt er ab. <br><u>''(ASS :)''</u> Jeder Mitspieler muss solange Karten vom Nachziehstapel aufdecken, bis er eine Karte aufdeckt, die mindestens {{Cost|3}} kostet. Diese Karte muss er entsorgen und darf sich eine andere Karte nehmen, die mindestens {{Cost|2}} weniger kostet. Die anderen aufgedeckten Karten werden abgelegt. || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !Hungarian | ||
+ | | Szabotőr || || || || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !Italian | ||
+ | | Sabotatore || || || || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !Japanese | ||
+ | | 破壊工作員 (pron. ''hakai kōsaku-in'', lit. ''destruction operative'') || || || || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !Korean | ||
+ | | 파괴 공작원 (pron. ''pagoe gongjag-won'', lit. ''destroying agents'') || || || || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !Norwegian | ||
+ | | Sabotør || || || || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !Polish | ||
+ | | Sabotażysta || || {{CardLangVersionImage|Polish}} || || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !Russian | ||
+ | | Саботажник (pron. ''sabotazhnik'') || || || || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !Spanish | ||
+ | | Saboteador || || || || Error: gain obligatory | ||
+ | |} | ||
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== Trivia == | == Trivia == | ||
+ | [[Image:SaboteurArt.jpg|thumb|right|354px|Official card art.]] | ||
=== Secret History === | === Secret History === | ||
{{Quote|Text= This is one end result in the quest for a working version of "each other player trashes the top card of their deck." That concept, as I have previously mentioned, has three problems: 1) it's often weak, trashing Coppers and Estates; 2) it's too random, sometimes trashing one player's Copper and another's Province; 3) it can lead to a weird game state in which everyone only has 5 cards left and can't get anywhere, which is cool if it just happens once ever, but bad if it happens every time a particular card is on the table. | {{Quote|Text= This is one end result in the quest for a working version of "each other player trashes the top card of their deck." That concept, as I have previously mentioned, has three problems: 1) it's often weak, trashing Coppers and Estates; 2) it's too random, sometimes trashing one player's Copper and another's Province; 3) it can lead to a weird game state in which everyone only has 5 cards left and can't get anywhere, which is cool if it just happens once ever, but bad if it happens every time a particular card is on the table. | ||
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Saboteur solves all of those problems. It can't hit Coppers or Estates; it has a much more even effect on your opponents; and the weird game state is much harder to achieve. And all it took was lots of tiny text!|Name=[[Donald X. Vaccarino]] | Saboteur solves all of those problems. It can't hit Coppers or Estates; it has a much more even effect on your opponents; and the weird game state is much harder to achieve. And all it took was lots of tiny text!|Name=[[Donald X. Vaccarino]] | ||
|Source=[http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=116.0 The Secret History of the Intrigue Cards] | |Source=[http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=116.0 The Secret History of the Intrigue Cards] | ||
}} | }} | ||
− | + | === Retrospective === | |
− | + | {{Quote| | |
+ | |Text=Saboteur is the biggest mistake here. Some people hate it because it can trash {{Card|Province|Provinces}}, some because it's an attack that doesn't make resources (which was a surprise but there it is), some just don't like it because it's weak. Some people like it, but the kind of person who wants an attack like this deserves one that has fewer strikes against it - like, {{Card|Swindler}}, there you go. | ||
+ | |Name=[[Donald X. Vaccarino]] | ||
+ | |Source=[http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=3179.msg56362#msg56362 What Donald X. Might Do With a Dominion Time Machine] | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | === Second Edition Removal === | ||
+ | {{Quote|Text=Long ago my pick for worst card relative to its cost. It's got three huge problems: some people hate that it's an attack that doesn't otherwise help you; it's weak; and it's crazy wordy. On top of that some people just don't like trashing attacks, and the set already has Swindler. Some people do like them, but did I mention that the set has Swindler? | ||
+ | |Name=[[Donald X. Vaccarino]] | ||
+ | |Source=[http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=16338.0 The Secret History of the Dominion 2nd Editions] | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | === Alternatives === | ||
+ | {{Quote|Text= For me the premise was just "trashing attack." If you accept that then there are other better trashing attacks, hooray. Specifically digging for a good-enough card to trash is problematic. Inverse {{Card|Remodel}} does exist on the Hex {{Hex|Locusts}}. | ||
+ | |Name=[[Donald X. Vaccarino]] | ||
+ | |Source=[http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=115.0 Product Idea - Dominion: Memories] | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | {{Navbox Intrigue}} | ||
{{Navbox Cards}} | {{Navbox Cards}} |
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Saboteur | |
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Type(s) | Action - Attack |
Kingdom card? | Yes |
Set | Intrigue |
Illustrator(s) | Dennis Lohausen |
Card text | |
Each other player reveals cards from the top of his deck until revealing one costing or more. He trashes that card and may gain a card costing at most less than it. He discards the other revealed cards. |
Saboteur is an Action-Attack card from the first edition of Intrigue. When played, it makes all other players reveal cards from their deck until they reveal a card costing or more, and then makes them trash that card; as a consolation, they may gain a card costing up to less; the effect is like a reverse Remodel. Unless it can be played every turn reliably, it is fairly weak, since its attack can often hit easy-to-get cards like Silver and since it gives no direct benefit to the player who plays it.
It was removed from the second edition of Intrigue.
Contents |
FAQ
Official FAQ
- Each other player turns over the top cards of his deck until he reveals one costing or more. If a player needs to shuffle to continue revealing cards, he does not shuffle in the already revealed cards.
- If he goes through all of his cards without finding a card costing or more, he just discards everything revealed and is done.
- If he does find a card costing or more, he trashes it, and then may choose to gain a card costing at most less than the trashed card. For example, if he trashed a card costing , he may gain a card costing up to .
- The gained card must be from the Supply and is put into his discard pile, as are his revealed cards.
- Costs of cards are affected by Bridge.
Other Rules clarifications
- Saboteur forces other players to trash their own card; the player who owns the card being trashed is the one who trashes it and gets any on-trash benefits.
Strategy Article
Original article by theory
The ultimate spite card, and on the surface, seemingly ridiculously powerful. But on a closer look, considering its cost, Saboteur is one of the weakest attacks in the game.
First, Saboteur is one of the three attack cards (along with Sea Hag and Sir Michael) that provides zero benefit to the attacker, which is a much greater liability than it might seem. represents an elite tier of Actions, so buying Saboteur means passing up some very strong alternatives. And the fact that it is terminal means that you can’t exactly load up on Saboteurs without doing even more harm to your own deck.
Second, the attack can benefit your opponents in a way: because it skips all the and cards, it might let them cycle through the junk in their deck. I would be completely fine with my opponent discarding all my Coppers, Curses, and Estates just to trash a Silver.
Third, an opponent can sometimes take advantage of the Saboteur to exchange an expensive card for a card they’d rather have — converting cards into Duchies; Golds into Gardens or Estates. And not being able to buy the winning Duchy because you trashed your opponent’s Peddler into the last Duchy is a pretty painful thing.
Fourth... it’s just not that strong. The best case scenario is hitting an opponent’s Colony/Province, which either just gets "un-Remodeled" into a Platinum/Gold, or "un-Rebuilt" into a Province/Duchy. The possibility of a 3-4VP difference is therefore hardly that much better than buying a Duchy with the . And your opponents can counter Saboteur pretty strongly by filling their deck with cheap, expendable non-terminal Actions (boo hoo, you trashed my Wishing Well), or hiding their valuables with Island or Native Village.
Nevertheless, Saboteur is still good in certain situations. If you have an abundance of Actions, there are certainly worse terminals to purchase. (I’m looking at you, Chancellor.) It really benefits from gaps in card costs: for instance, a lack of Cards means that a Sabotaged Gold has to drop by instead of . Similarly, Saboteur’s effect is effectively amplified if the only available cards at a certain price level totally suck (how many Talismans do you really want or need, past early game?) and/or are terminal and incompatible with the rest of the set.
Like most other attacks, Saboteur is more powerful early on, when discarding Coppers still hurt, and a couple lucky draws can really hamstring your opponent’s upward progress. And also like most other attacks, Saboteur becomes wildly powerful with Throne Room and King's Court, which lets you really pore through an opponent’s deck, making it much more likely that you’ll hit a Victory card. (You’ll also be trashing his cards much faster than he can replace them.) It’s also a common last-minute desperation gambit if you have no other realistic way to catch up to someone ahead of you in Provinces.
All in all, though, Saboteur looks much more powerful than it actually is. The best counter to Saboteur is probably not getting one.
Synergies/Combos
- Throne Room / King's Court
- Spy
- Opponent’s Possession
Antisynergies
- Opponents that flood their decks with expendable non-terminal /Actions
- Your other attacks
- Peddler
- Opponents’ Remodel/Expand
- Opponents’ Gardens decks, since the Saboteur slows you from getting your Provinces before the game ends, while trashing Gardens into Estates accelerates the end of the game and trashing Workshops doesn’t really matter
- Opponents’ junk decks in general (decks that primarily rely on cards costing under : for instance, Counting House)
- Opponents that hide their Victory cards with Island or Native Village
Versions
English versions
Other language versions
Trivia
Secret History
Retrospective
Second Edition Removal
Alternatives